Legislature(2007 - 2008)CAPITOL 124

02/06/2007 08:00 AM House COMMUNITY & REGIONAL AFFAIRS


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*+ HB 60 MUNICIPAL PROPERTY TAX EXEMPTION TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
*+ HB 67 MUNI PROP TAX EXEMPTION FOR POLICE HOMES TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
HB  60-MUNICIPAL PROPERTY TAX EXEMPTION                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:02:03 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  FAIRCLOUGH announced  that the  first order of  business                                                              
would be  HOUSE BILL NO.  60, "An Act  relating to  and increasing                                                              
the  municipal property  tax exemption  on  residences of  certain                                                              
seniors and others; and providing for an effective date."                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:03:04 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  VIC KOHRING,  Alaska  State Legislature,  sponsor,                                                              
explained  that HB  60 merely  increases the  senior and  disabled                                                              
veteran  property   tax  exemption  from  the  current   level  of                                                              
$150,000 to  $250,000.  The  current exemption was  established in                                                              
1985.   Representative Kohring opined  that it's time  to increase                                                              
the  exemption.   He  further opined  that  the proposed  $100,000                                                              
increase is  a fairly modest  increase, especially  when inflation                                                              
for the  past 20  years is  considered.   He related concern  with                                                              
regard  to  the  impact  of  greatly   increased  taxes  based  on                                                              
assessed values  and market values because the  aforementioned has                                                              
caused   financial  distress   for  some   seniors  and   disabled                                                              
veterans.   In fact,  Representative Kohring  relayed that  he has                                                              
heard  lots of  concern  from seniors  and  disabled veterans  who                                                              
can't afford  to live in their houses  and are forced  to move out                                                              
of Alaska.   Unfortunately, [some  seniors and disabled  veterans]                                                              
are being  placed in  the tough  position of  choosing whether  to                                                              
pay for their mortgage or taxes or medicine.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
8:05:22 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  NEUMAN   noted  that  he,  too,   has  received  a                                                              
tremendous amount  of response from  seniors on this  legislation.                                                              
However, he inquired as to the other side of this issue.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KOHRING  acknowledged  that  municipalities  don't                                                              
like HB 60  because of the  fear that the proposed  exemption will                                                              
take money  away from other  programs.  However,  he characterized                                                              
HB 60  as legislation  that allows  seniors and disabled  veterans                                                              
to keep more of  their own money.  With regard  to the charge that                                                              
HB 60  is an  unfunded mandate,  Representative Kohring  noted his                                                              
disagreement  because the  municipalities have  been able  to make                                                              
up  the  money lost  to  the  exemption  through the  increase  of                                                              
assessed  property  values.    Therefore,  he  opined  that  [this                                                              
proposed   exemption]    isn't   a   major   financial    hit   on                                                              
municipalities.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
8:07:32 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  LEDOUX  asked  if a  senior  could  end  up in  a  worse                                                              
situation with  an increase in the  value of his/her  property and                                                              
a  larger mill  rate  on  the value  of  the property  beyond  the                                                              
exemption.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KOHRING acknowledged that  such could  happen, but                                                              
emphasized that's exactly  why he wants to increase  the amount of                                                              
the exemption.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  LEDOUX inquired  as to  who is  going to  pay for  this.                                                              
She  inquired   as  to  how   one  would  justify   those  wealthy                                                              
seniors/disabled veterans  who receive this exemption,  when young                                                              
families  face higher  property taxes  because of  the senior  and                                                              
disabled veteran exemption.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KOHRING  said  that  one  shouldn't  automatically                                                              
assume that taxes  should increase to make up  for this exemption.                                                              
Perhaps  municipalities  should   determine  how  to  become  more                                                              
efficient,  he suggested.   He  acknowledged that  there are  some                                                              
wealthy seniors, although he felt they were the exception.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
8:10:38 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  OLSON asked  if  the Mat-Su  Borough  has taken  a                                                              
position on HB 60.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KOHRING  replied no,  although he assumed  that the                                                              
Mat-Su  Borough  would  have  concerns.     In  further  response,                                                              
Representative  Kohring said that  he isn't  aware of  any borough                                                              
or  municipality  that  has  commented  on HB  60.    However,  he                                                              
recalled that  the Municipality  of Anchorage did  express concern                                                              
with regard to the legislation.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
8:11:19 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  FAIRCLOUGH   pointed  out  that  the   committee  packet                                                              
includes a  letter from the  Alaska Municipal League  (AML), which                                                              
is  in  opposition to  HB  60  if  there is  no  additional  state                                                              
funding.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:11:49 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JOHN WILLIAMS,  Mayor, Kenai  Peninsula Borough, characterized  HB
60 as an  unfunded mandate.  He  then reviewed the history  of the                                                              
senior  exemption, including  the  end of  state  support for  the                                                              
program in 1997.   Mayor Williams said, "From  that point forward,                                                              
the  inflation route,  according  to our  schedule  and under  our                                                              
present  exemption,  caused  that  loss  in  revenue  to  go  from                                                              
$131,000  to the  present  position of  $4,382,000."   A  $250,000                                                              
exemption today  would result  in a total  loss of revenue  to the                                                              
[Kenai Peninsula  Borough] of $4.25  million and to the  state $56                                                              
million.   With regard to  the notion that  [to make up  this loss                                                              
in  revenue]  boroughs  merely  have  to  increase  taxes  or  the                                                              
assessed  value,  Mayor Williams  pointed  out that  the  assessed                                                              
value is mandated  by state law  to be assessed at 100  percent of                                                              
full market  value.  If that's  not done, then the  state collects                                                              
the  difference between  what isn't  assessed and  what should  be                                                              
assessed   by   removing   funds  from   the   local   community's                                                              
educational  funding.   Therefore, it's  not correct  to say  that                                                              
the  $250,000 exemption  wouldn't cost  the [municipalities]  more                                                              
money, he opined.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MAYOR WILLIAMS  pointed out that there  is no need for  any senior                                                              
to  lose   his/her  property  because   the  state   hardship  law                                                              
specifies  that if  one  can demonstrate  a  hardship, then  taxes                                                              
could be  reduced to  2 percent of  the individual's  annual gross                                                              
income.  The  aforementioned can be incorporated into  the laws of                                                              
any  municipality.   Mayor Williams  then  informed the  committee                                                              
that last  year only 2 people  applied for hardship in  the Mat-Su                                                              
Borough while  33 applied in  Juneau.  Mayor Williams  highlighted                                                              
that  the $4  million loss  to the  Kenai  Peninsula Borough  will                                                              
have to be paid by other taxpayers.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
8:17:56 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MAYOR WILLIAMS  posed a situation in  which there is a  rural area                                                              
within the  borough that has a gravel  road 8 miles from  the fire                                                              
department.   On that gravel road  live seven senior  families and                                                              
one  young family  with  children.   The  gravel  road  has to  be                                                              
maintained  for all  and  yet the  entire cost  of  that road  and                                                              
other services  is borne  by the  only taxpayer  on the  road, the                                                              
young family.  Mayor  Williams related that he is  a senior and in                                                              
his conversations  with seniors,  the seniors believe  it's unfair                                                              
that they can  vote for these programs or services  without having                                                              
to pay for them.   Therefore, Mayor Williams opined  that it would                                                              
only be  fair to allow  boroughs to decide  whether to  offer this                                                              
proposed  exemption.   He  highlighted  that the  Kenai  Peninsula                                                              
Borough  has offered  a  full exemption  for  seniors  and it  has                                                              
created a hardship on the borough.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
8:21:02 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   NEUMAN  opined  that   there  seem  to   be  some                                                              
discrepancies  with   regard  to  how  boroughs   [implement]  the                                                              
hardship rule.   Furthermore, most  seniors don't seem to  want to                                                              
deal   with   the   paperwork  required   to   apply   for   such.                                                              
Representative  Neuman then  opined  that most  seniors spend  the                                                              
majority of  their money  locally and  face increases  in expenses                                                              
with which their income can't keep pace.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MAYOR WILLIAMS  said that the form  the state [requires]  to apply                                                              
for  the hardship  is  a  simple  one-page document,  although  he                                                              
acknowledged  that municipalities  may  place other  requirements.                                                              
With regard  to the charge that  seniors pay taxes in  other ways,                                                              
he  acknowledged  that may  be  true  in some  municipalities  but                                                              
pointed out  that so does every  other citizen.  The  exemption is                                                              
most unfair,  he opined, because  seniors who take advantage  of a                                                              
total  exemption don't  pay for  any  service or  program.   Mayor                                                              
Williams emphasized  that he isn't  opposed to the  exemption, but                                                              
rather believes  it should  be a local  option.  He  then recalled                                                              
that  the  governor's  budget  includes  $43  million  in  revenue                                                              
sharing to  help struggling municipalities  meet the needs  of its                                                              
local  government, while  the passage  of  this legislation  would                                                              
result in  a loss of $56  million from those  same municipalities.                                                              
Again, he encouraged  the committee to allow local  communities to                                                              
make these decisions.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
8:26:43 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MIKE  ABBOTT,   Assistant  Municipal   Manager,  Municipality   of                                                              
Anchorage,  related strong  support  for the  senior and  disabled                                                              
veteran property  tax exemption.   However,  he expressed  concern                                                              
that  it  costs municipal  taxpayers  approximately  $20  million.                                                              
Therefore,  the   municipality's  support  for  HB   60  would  be                                                              
conditioned on the  inclusion of an appropriate fiscal  note.  For                                                              
Anchorage,  approximately  $13-$14  million  in  additional  funds                                                              
beyond the  $20 million the  municipality currently  expends would                                                              
be necessary  to implement this  exemption.  Mr.  Abbott mentioned                                                              
that in the past  there has been discussion of  alternatives, such                                                              
as a  state-funded rebate system  whereby seniors could  receive a                                                              
rebate  in the amount  of the  current exemption  or the  proposed                                                              
expanded exemption.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
8:29:15 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
STEVE VAN  SANT, State Assessor,  Division of Community  Advocacy,                                                              
Department of  Commerce, Community,  & Economic Development,  drew                                                              
attention  to  the fiscal  note  which  shows that  the  increased                                                              
exemption would  cost [all  the] municipalities approximately  $16                                                              
million more  than the current exemption  for a total cost  of $56                                                              
million statewide.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
8:29:46 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  NEUMAN  inquired  as to  how  many  municipalities                                                              
would be impacted  by this.  He then inquired as  to the number of                                                              
exemptions  in each municipality  and what  those would  equate to                                                              
per household.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. VAN  SANT estimated that  the proposal  in HB 60  would amount                                                              
to  about $2,500  per household.    However, he  pointed out  that                                                              
it's an average and thus the range is quite wide.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
8:31:13 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  LEDOUX inquired  as  to how  many  communities have  the                                                              
hardship exemption.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR. VAN SANT  answered that it's available to  all municipalities.                                                              
However,  the division  doesn't  get reports  with  regard to  how                                                              
many people  apply for the  hardship exemption.   He said  that he                                                              
did  know that  the  Mat-Su  Borough and  the  City  & Borough  of                                                              
Juneau offer the hardship exemption.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR. ABBOTT  said that  Anchorage hasn't  implemented the  hardship                                                              
exemption.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
8:33:15 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KATHY WASSERMAN,  Alaska Municipal League (AML),  related that AML                                                              
and  the approximately  30  communities  who impose  property  tax                                                              
support the  senior and disabled  veteran tax exemption  for those                                                              
in need.   However, AML is opposed  to HB 60.  Under  the original                                                              
exemption,   the   revenue  lost   due   to  the   exemption   was                                                              
replaced/reimbursed  by the state.   That is  not the case  now as                                                              
the property taxpayers,  not municipalities have  to reimburse the                                                              
loss.   Ms.  Wasserman  emphasized  that difficulties  for  making                                                              
ends meet is  a difficulty for more  than just seniors.   In fact,                                                              
many young  parents and single  parents are financially  strapped.                                                              
These  exemptions  could  also  attribute  to  the  "brain  drain"                                                              
because if  one can't afford to  raise a family in  Alaska perhaps                                                              
they may  choose to  live elsewhere.   Ms. Wasserman  said, "Every                                                              
year  the legislature  imposes more  and more  exemptions and  the                                                              
tax burden  on those who  do not qualify  for those  exemptions is                                                              
growing and increasing.   She echoed earlier testimony  that HB 60                                                              
would  impose a  total  of  $56 million  in  lost  revenue on  the                                                              
residents of these  30 municipalities.  While all  those that fall                                                              
under the  exemption would still  require the basic  services, the                                                              
number of people  left to pay for those services  will continue to                                                              
fall."   Furthermore,  high fuel  prices and  retirement costs  as                                                              
well as  the lack  of revenue  sharing result  in communities  not                                                              
being  able  to  cut  costs  and  become  more  efficient  by  $56                                                              
million.   Therefore,  she  suggested following  AS  29.45.030(g),                                                              
which  in part  read:   "The state  shall reimburse  a borough  or                                                              
city, as appropriate,  for the real property tax  revenues lost to                                                              
it by the operation  of (e) of this section."   The aforementioned                                                              
statute  is mentioned  in the  fiscal  notes for  HB 60.   If  the                                                              
state feels this  exemption is appropriate, then  the state should                                                              
pay for  the unfunded  mandate,  she opined.   Ms. Wasserman  then                                                              
suggested   another   solution,   which   would  be   to   provide                                                              
municipalities  the tools to  help all  low-income families.   For                                                              
example, the  circuit breaker program  could be utilized  to allow                                                              
local   communities  to   establish   their   own  criteria   [for                                                              
exemptions].                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
8:37:32 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE NEUMAN  inquired as to how Ms.  Wasserman would see                                                              
a property  tax exemption  not to  exceed a  percentage of  income                                                              
included in legislation such as HB 60.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS.  WASSERMAN  suggested   that  there  would  have   to  be  new                                                              
legislation to allow such.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE NEUMAN  turned to the comments regarding  the young                                                              
families that  face financial difficulties.   He then  opined that                                                              
young  families  have  the ability  to  overcome  hardships  while                                                              
seniors  don't have  the  ability to  obtain  employment to  raise                                                              
additional income.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MS.  WASSERMAN stressed  that  a  circuit breaker  or  needs-based                                                              
program would  address those  people in  need rather than  helping                                                              
people based on age.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
8:39:56 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  LEDOUX  inquired  as   to  the  difference  between  the                                                              
circuit breaker and hardship programs.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS. WASSERMAN  said that there may  not be much  difference; these                                                              
are programs that communities could enable.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR LEDOUX  related her understanding that  local communities                                                              
already have the option of adopting the hardship exemption.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. WASSERMAN  pointed out that  currently the hardship  exemption                                                              
only needs to kick  in after the first $150,000  of assessed value                                                              
because that  amount is  already not included  [due to  the senior                                                              
and disabled  veteran exemption].   Therefore, if the  [senior and                                                              
disabled  veteran  exemption]  was  a local  option,  the  circuit                                                              
breaker program could be utilized from the beginning.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
[HB 60 was held over.]                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                

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